Officer-Involved Domestic Fatalities - 1
Officer-Involved Domestic Fatalities - 2
[WA] Tragedy Will Occur If They Don't Have Anyone To Listen To Them
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[U.S.] Too Many Said-Suicides of Law Enforcement Officer's wives, girlfriends, dates, and ex's
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Hello, Cloud!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your posting and have a good weekend
3/8/08
ReplyDeleteHello, I'm really glad to have found your site.
You should blast this site everywhere so that the masses can become familiar with what is such a horrible secret.
Did you know that the U.S.Attorney's office has a remedy for this problem.
It's the Federal Death Penalty Act.
I strongly suggest that a movement be put in place to ask that strict accountability be applied to this epidemic.
When an officer is killed by a citizen, the death penalty is sought and usually won.
Citizens should expect no less from the U.S.Attorney when Officers are murderers.
It's the same law that has been applied to Officer Len Davis who currently resides on death row.
This can't be kept underground.
We just can't have Officers instilling this type of fear into anyone let alone their families.
Let's get busy.
I am currently experiencing what I believe is a cover up or bribery for silence. I can't get answers from anyone. My dad is a decorated Vietnam war veteran. They say suicide. I believe he was murdered.
DeleteIn Memphis Tennessee a Sergeat from the Shelby County Sheriff's office shot 2 people, killing one and severely injuring the second.
ReplyDeleteThis guy had gone mad over his wife filing for divorce and had gone to a local bar to wait on the alleged lover. He is the son of a former Memphis City Councilman.
Go to Commercial Appeal newspaper website for further details. The Deputy is still in jail under a 500,000 bond. His attorney is Leslie Ballin the same who defended Mary Winkler in the shooting death of her husband.
The Deputy is Chris Jones.
I collected articles on that shooting right afterwards, found some more domestic inferences on commnent sections of a blog and was waiting until more family info came out - about the barely-mentioned divorce. I'll check tonight for more. Also, one of the witnesses in a video mentions that the the problem was about the "deputy and his wife" there at the wind jammer - so, knowing it wasn't his wife I was waiting to see if more came out about that also.
ReplyDeleteI'm on my way now...
Thanks for thinking of me and reminding me to double-back on that... I've been distracted (by life stuff) and unable to post as much lately.
If it's a cop, warn every agency or service you deal with that your ex is a cop and may present himself falsely as working on a case in order to get info - Make them tag your records with a warning!!! Any police inquiries to be referred to the top dog there.
ReplyDeleteAlexis Alexandria is seeking records because Officer Chess of the Buckley police department purgeured himself under oath which effected the outcome of the trial, Pierce County Prosecutors Office refuses to allow this information to the public! Seattle courts April 25, 2008 court case for PRA
ReplyDeleteanonymous
How would people get ahold of you if they have information?
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to open government, the system works, but …
Local governments generally do well on requests for public records, but there’s still a wide range of compliance – and noncompliance
News Tribune
SEAN ROBINSON; sean.robinson@thenewstribune.com
March 17th, 2008 04:47 AM (PDT)
[EXCERPT} ...Buckley resident Alexis Alexandria has been battling Pierce County courts for two years over records related to domestic violence. In 2004, she obtained a restraining order against her ex-boyfriend, Kenneth McDonough, a Bonney Lake police officer. McDonough was subsequently charged with fourth-degree assault (domestic violence) in Pierce County District Court. He was acquitted, but the restraining order remained active. Following the verdict, Alexandria filed a records request seeking police reports and field notes. In 2006, Pierce County supplied some records, but withheld 259 pages, saying the documents were protected by attorney-client privilege. Alexandria filed suit in July 2007. In February, a King County judge accepted Alexandria’s motion to review the records and determine whether Pierce County’s decision to withhold was proper. No decision has been reached yet. Alexandria’s attorney, Scott Johnson, did not respond to a phone message from The News Tribune seeking comment. County attorneys argue that Alexandria could obtain the records from other sources, such as the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department. They say they don’t want to set a precedent that would allow examination of prosecutor’s notes, or create the prospect of prosecutors becoming witnesses in civil cases. “If we can get people to go to the source, which can be Tacoma police or the sheriff’s office, that takes a load off our office, which is a pretty stressed office as far as workload is concerned,” said deputy prosecutor Doug Vanscoy, head of the county’s civil division.http://wwwb.thenewstribune.com/databases/sunshine/
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ReplyDelete"[GA] I SPY DETECTIVE ZELLOUS - Still employed. Still a cop (and credible?)." - http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2008/05/ga-i-spy-detective-zellous-still.html
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "[GA] I SPY DETECTIVE ZELLOUS - Still employed. Sti...":
Cloud_Writer,
While I believe that you are engaged in a laudible undertaking, and you truly are trying to do good and right, I would implore you to understand that not EVERY accusation is truthful and not every case is as easy as the evil man beating on the hapless woman.
Unfortunately, there are law enforcement officers who engage in domestic violence. There are also mechanics, doctors, lawyers, lunchroom workers, and journalists who do so too. Is it worse when committed by a law enforcement officer? I think so, as law enforcement officers should be held to a somewhat higher standard, as they are sworn to enforce the very laws they are breaking when committing such an act.
That point aside, some law enforcement spouses, estranged lovers, ex-girlfriends, etc. know the quickest way to ruin a law enforcement officer's carreer is to cry domestic violence. Sadly, this happens all too often. Federal Law prohibits a person convicted of domestic violence from possessing a firearm - no exceptions. Therefore - career gone. Unfortunately this gets used a tool. Likewise, I am sure you have heard of cases where someone accuses an ex spouse of child molestation in order to get more favorable visitation or divorce settlement.
I cannot speak to the facts of the Zellous case; however, I think you might should look deeper before you run around thinking the sky is falling. I am sure the vast majority of the cases you cite on your blog are heinous and look bad for the profession of law enforcement. I think that not all fit the same mold, however. I only ask you to conisder that.
Thanks!
I AM GLAD THAT SOMEONE ELSE SEES WHAT I HAVE SEEN ON HERE AND OTHER SITES AS WELL. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH EVERYTHING YOU WROTE!
DeleteSo glad I am not the only one. Those guilty, TRULY guilty, should be held accountable regardless of profession. I have seen too often on here and other sites the failure to show all sides and comments. Especially those where charges were dropped, dismissed or found NOT guilty. It is assumed there is a cover up or conspiracy if found in the favor of the officer but when it is shown to be a cover up or conspiracy from the other side it is taken as inconceivable that they would do such a thing. Fair and accurate reporting is morally right. I know of many instances where comments from those supporting officers have not been posted on here.
DeleteThere are dirty departments and professional departments represented without bias here - and everything between... like departments that didn't see it coming or didn't intervene when they could & should have. There are coverups and cleanups.
ReplyDeleteAfter all is said - it comes down to the brass and how they operate. An officer can't make a department look bad. It ultimately rests on the chief and those who have the power to effect her decisions.
This blog is necessary and many good things have come from it. It addresses a very specific area because over and over law enforcement agencies claim dv is not a problem in their ranks, appear in the news SURPRISED when the worst happens, victims echo one another that too often they cannot get anyone to help them, etc...
This blog however also GLIMMERS with case after case of departments that do not tolerate this behavior, who DO listen to victims, and serve as exaples of how things can be handled without a negative reflection on the department. A department defines itself by how it responds to officer who need help, and those who commit crimes.
The blog demonstrates high and low hiring standards. Professional and cowboy training methods. The blog shows officers who hop from department to department and rulings that remove a rogue's certification forever.
Both. All.
This blog includes abused officers, cleared officers, convicted officers, officers never charged, officers with a list of charges, officers who kill, officers who blow the whistle, officers who are murdered, departments who initiate new officer-involved domestic policies, and departments that probably never will.
The blog is opportunity. In it's hundreds of posts you won't find me saying police suck.
Know why? I bet you can figure it out.
I have the support of many officers - officers who don't want criminals in the ranks, officers who want better services for troubled officers and families, officers who hope for changes, and officers who are proud they work for a department that has already done all they can to anticipate and remedy inhouse dv.
Your comment assumes that after all of this I haven't looked "deeper" and assumes I'm freaking out about the sky falling. I don't know what you mean or are referring to.
I started the serious collecting when our police chief committed murder suicide on his wife after many were aware of allegations of abuse.
There was no policy here. There is now. There was no federal legislation, but now there is - in his wife's name: The Crystal Judson Brame Domestic Violence Protocol Program.
Before that happened can you IMAGINE how many people said
just drop it or move on?
Sometimes good things come from bad. Sometimes birth involves pain. Rarely can anyone fix what isn't evident, and sometimes people don't know how to make positive change without seeing it in action elsewhere.
Just FYI.
ReplyDeleteWhen I enter this blog to post, I don't come to the home page. I always enter through a link shortcut that I created to this post:
[GA] Denise Taylor shot & killed accidentally - No investigation needed.
http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2008/03/ga-denise-taylor-shot-killed.html
It keeps me on point and reminds me how far there is yet to go.
Thank you so much for making this site. You are an angel to those victims and their families! God Bless You and may He bring wonderful things to you.
ReplyDeleteThank you. I needed that. The misdeeds of Deputy McClain froze me up and made it hard to lift my arms and now after a day of rest I'll hop back in here and get back on mah job. :) You're an angel who brought sustenance.
ReplyDeleteBe safe and strong.
I inserted news of Felisia Shiver back to a Jan 2008 date today:
ReplyDelete[FL] DOC Officer Shiver gets life for killing long-estranged wife Felisia - http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2008/01/fl-doc-officer-shiver-gets-life-for.html
I am a police psychologist. I don't hesitate to tell my dept to fire officers who violate the law. I expect them to be held to a higher standard than the public. I would like to put together a research project involving officers and domestic violence. Additionally, I wonder if the depts have went back and reviewed the psych eval done prior to employment. We do that at my dept because I am always looking for ways to improve the process and reduce the number of false negative we have with testing.
ReplyDeleteOur Tacoma pd tested David Brame and recommended against hiring him. He was hired, rose through the ranks and committed murder-suicide on his wife after other twisted actions that came to light in the following investigation. One piece of info that was never made public was how many other officers on TPD did not pass the test. Seems like that would have been one of the first things to find out.
ReplyDeleteIf I can help you with info let me know. I've tracked thousands of cases, from before this blog started.
Thanks for posting - I'd say more but I'm running out the door to work.
Oh, David Brame was Chief of Police when he committed his final crime - against his wife Crystal (Judson) - after years of systematically abusing her.
ReplyDeleteLET ME START BY SAYING YOUR SITE IS VERY INFORMATIVE. IT SHOWS HOW TRAGIC DV REALLY IS. HOWEVER I FIND IT TO BE VERY SUBJECTIVE TO THE POINT IT HURTS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE SITE. I AM A POLICE OFFICER AND ONE OF THE SUBJECTS OF YOUR BLOGS. TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT MY EX-WIFE CONCOCTED THE STORY BECAUSE I WAS AWARDED CUSTODY OF OUR DAUGTHER ALL CHARGES WERE DROPPED AND MY NAME WAS CLEARED ALL FOR EXCEPT YOUR SITE. I WONDER HOW MANY STORIES ENDED UP LIKE MINE AND HOW CREDIBLE YOUR SITE IS. YOU SHOULD DO SOME TYPE OF FOLLOW UP
ReplyDeleteI AM CURRENTLY TRYING TO HAVE CURRENT INFORMATION ON MY HUSBAND WHO HAD THE SAME THING AHPPEN TO HIM - HIS EX CONSTANTLY PLOTTING AGAINST HIM AND TOOK IT TOO FAR TO THE POINT OF HURTING THEIR DAUGHTER WHOM HE HAD CUSTODY OF. EVEN AFTER EVERYTHING WE STILL HAVE CUSTODY NAD HIS EX STILL HAS NOT BE INVESTIGATED MUCH LESS QUESTIONED BUT CONTINUES TO ABUSE THE CHILD MENTALLY NAD EMTIONALLY. ALL I WANT IS THE REST OF TH STORY TO COME OUT - THE TRUTH FROM BEGINNING TO END! WHICH THE MAJORITY OF ALL THESE STORIES ARE MATTER OF PUBLUC RECORD AND ANYBODY CAN GET A COPY OF EVERYTHING REGARDING THE MATTERS FROM THE CLERK.
DeleteIt's my job to prove you're innocent? That's rich.
ReplyDeleteProVIDE me the info (since I'm covering the whole county, not just you) and I will update the post.
AS I STATED YOUR SITE IS INFOMATIVE AND GOOD-INTENTIONED, AND NO IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO PROVE MY INNOCENCE. BUT HARRASSMENT AND CHARACTER ASSAINATION ARE FORMS OF DV AS WELL MAYBE NOT AS GLARING AS PHYSICAL DV. BY YOU PUBLISHING MY NAME AND AIDING HER CAMPAIGN OF LIES YOU YOURSELF HAVE BECOME AN INSTRUMENT OF DV. MAYBE SOME TYPE OF DISCLAIMER SHOULD ACCOMPANY YOUR BLOG SAYING YOU DO NO RESEARCH OR FOLLOW-UP ON THESE CASES YOU WRITE ABOUT. I THINK I MAY CONTACT AN ATTORNEY
ReplyDeleteIf you prefer contacting your attorney to providing the info to substantiate your claim of innocence, then that's your choice.
ReplyDeleteI THOUGTH THIS WAS THE USA WHERE WE ARE PRESUMED INNOCENT, BUT HOWEVER WOULD YOU LIKE A FAX OF THE CUSTODY DECREE THE FINAL DISPOSTION OF THE CRIMINAL CHARGES A COPY OF THE COUNTLESS CHILD ABUSE CHARGES SHE HAS FILED ANONUMOSLY SINCE THE CUSTODY TRIAL THE COUNTLESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REPORTS SHE HAS FILED FOR EVERYTHING FROM RETURNING MY CHILDS CLOTHES UNWASHED TO ARRIVING 3 MINUTTES LATE WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE AND WHERESHOULD I SEND IT. WHAT WILL BE THE RMEDY YOU DELETING MY NAME, PUBLISHING AN APOLOGY, YOU RESEARCHING THESE CASES AND FIND OUT HOW MANY POLICE OFFICER WERE CLEARED AND WILL BE APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF THEM. GRANTED SOME OF THESE MEN ARE GUILTY I DOUBT I AM THE ONLY OFFICER IN THIS SITUATATION WILL YOU ADD A DISCLAIMER TO YOUR SITE OR WILL YOU JUST BE MORE VILIGANT IN FILTERING THESE CASES BEFORE PUBLISHING THEM WHAT WILL BE YOUR REMEDY
ReplyDeleteI am so sorry you are going through the same problems with this site and the media as my husband and I STILL are. This site has proven time and time again that they are NOT interested in the TRUTH or even victims rights. If it was why wouldn't they want the TRUTH posted on this site so the REAL perpetrator would be known to everyone so people could know! This site is about bashing cops. Not ONE of the articles has a retraction much less apology and forget about anything that would shine a positive light on a single innocent person that has been PROVEN to have been FALSELY accused! My thoughts and prayers go to you and your children as well as anyone else on this site being bashed by yet another ignorant hypocritical person. They are as guilty as the ones who made the false reports.
Deletewomantellingthetruth, you have been invited repeatedly to send the documents showing your husband is "innocent", and you haven't sent a thing. Because every message you have tried to post is full of blame of your husband's ex I can't post your comments without documentation.
DeleteMy x husband is a cop. He attempted to kill me twice. I an, divorced. I was very young.
DeleteYou are/were officer who?
ReplyDeleteIt always amazes me how people come to others' blog and tell them how to run their site.
ReplyDeleteThey're even FREE. Anyone can start one. :)
ReplyDeleteThis should not slip into the background. It's in progress. Support is needed.
ReplyDeleteBefore Jail Officer Tarica Pulliam was slain she & her mother signed the LaVena Johnson petition - http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2008/08/before-jail-officer-tarica-pulliam-was.html
Webpage: PFC. Lavena Johnson
http://lavenajohnson.com/
Hi, Cloud,
ReplyDeleteI am a police officer from SA with 18 years service. I actually worked under Supt Marius van der WEsthuizen from 1995 till 1999. I can actually believe that he did this as he was a very rigid person (right was right and wrong was wrong). However, I can almost not believe that he shot his eldest daughter. She was severly disabled and he cared for her from birth alone as her mother wasn't in the picture. He was a very good parent, although very strict. I also don't know what post traumatic stress he could have, and as for "depression", he once told me that it doesn't exist when I was suffering from post natal depression. Yes, I don't like the guy. Hope he goes away for a LONG time!!
seems in saugus that it was more of a murder than a suicide and a major coverup
ReplyDeleteThank you for your site, it affirms my sanity. Shows me that yes, it is really happening to others and so many more than we all know. I found a little published fact months ago that Stacy Peterson went to the police 18 times before she was silenced by her "disappearence". 18 times.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you tell us, what can you say, where can we go before our names are added to your lists of women who have been permanently silenced??? It is not enough for us to mourn these women and honor them on your site. It petrifies me that my son would see my name next.
Departments, both on township level and county prosecutor level are currently cleaning up and covering for this Lt. who controls Internal Affairs and changing "protocol" dependent upon whether I go to report him or he beats me there to say I'm coming and not to take me seriously. Maybe you could believe the stories and the nights in stations I've endured in the last 14 months because no here does, but what is it that I can do if he is untouchable and made of teflon??
I've seen alot of officers complaining because they are up here and charges were dropped, or they have custody, and were found innocent, This should not surprise anyone who's been through this. My ex has custody and has never been charged despite the fact that I have a court deposition in which he admits to severe abuse, placeing a gun to a spouse and childs head, stealing money off of a corpse at a wreck scene, breaking his hand beating his spouse, then going to work, caling for help, claiming he broke it chasing a "black man" and colecting workmans comp, and on and on. If someon would just charge him with the things he admitted to under oath I coulkd save my child. As it is I have not seen the child I raised alone since August 2007. I am proof that just because the officer wasn't charged doesn't mean that he's not a monster and guilty. I and understand there are officers wrongly accussed, but many are like me, we go years and years in silence, for fear, and at least for myself, he'd threatened murder suicide, and with suicide made me beleive that I was responsible for his well-being. It wasn't until he put his patol weapon against my childs face that I snapped out of it. Ultimatley she's with the monster, and probably thinks I don't want her. So I don't want to hear that "I wasn't charged", or "charges were dropped", personally it only verifies what I am going through, it's like knowing your child is in a building that's about to explode and no-one will let you get her out. And why do all officers use the same line, "she's crazy", .
ReplyDeleteWith this many officer's names made public in one blog you can IMAGINE my email inbox.
ReplyDeleteThere are genuinely sad stories, obvious lies, connivers, demanders, pleaders, threateners, gentlemen and a-holes, relatives, recanting victims, the accused, CRAAAZY people, the articulate, grieving survivors, and so on.
On the UPside there are genuine victims seeking information and trainers seeking resources.
And on a personal level I have made some beloved friends back here. All because our Tacoma chief killed his wife Crystal and himself.
I pinned the badge on an ex husband myself. I bet you could have guessed that. But the events that led up to this blog are because of our chief:
Lane Judson Made His Daughter A Promise
http://www.lanejudson.com/
The beloved friends have been victims, former victims, those broken hearted family members, and a couple of dedicated folks in the dv and citizen rights fields who aren't afraid of fire.
ReplyDeleteCan you send me the code to this app?
ReplyDeleteI want it on my blog!
http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com
Email me. When I tried to put it here the error message says:
ReplyDelete"Your HTML cannot be accepted: Tag is not allowed"
cloudwriter
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I'd like to know who you are, a hint to maintain your privacy.
DeleteFORGIVENESS DOES NOT HAVE TO MEAN RECONCILIATION. YOU CAN RELEASE PEOPLE, IN LOVE, AND GO TO HIGHER, SAFER GROUND.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter sustained police brutality two months ago, she was handcuffed after she called 911 claiming she was having breathing problems, these cops of our city do not like her, they said she was not sick after medics came to check her out, handcuffed her, threw her in a water puddle, then an officer told police to taser that b*tch. They did, 3 times. She had a mini stroke 2 weeks later and now she may have to have open heart surgery any day now, her heart is failing. She was sick all along, with abnormal heart rythmns and after that tasering, she may die thanks to them.
ReplyDeleteInterested in follow-up on Michael Flynn. The Fl Dept. Corrections website indicates he is out of jail on Court Order. Why would that be and where is he? What does his gf think about her safety with him out on the streets?
ReplyDeleteThanks.
PLC
It's just sad and messed up all around. I have never been able to fathom domestic violence. I guess it goes to how I was raised. A man NEVER hits a woman. I can't wrap my mind around beating a woman, much less my wife. Where does a person's mind have to be to murder your spouse or children?
ReplyDeleteWe need to reach our kids while they are young. It's the only solution I see.
ReplyDeleteDear Cloud Writer,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for this web site. I felt that, I needed to say this!!! If anything should happen to me, you know where to search.
Please keep me in your prayers.
It took me a minute to figure out who sad49 is but now I do know who you are. If anything happens to you make sure you have told someone to contact me. Speaking out does have it's risks. And what we agreed on is still going to happen - soon.
ReplyDeleteI added an old case this morning. I had the articles and they don't seem to be easily available anymore. This happened five years ago:
ReplyDelete[LA] Louisiana State Trooper Heath Henry Schumacher resigned during probe into his killing girlfriend Tamatha Jo Osborne, but was never charged.
http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2004/10/la-louisiana-state-trooper-heath-henry.html
If you are a victim of police officer-involved domestic violence, what or who has helped you? What or who hasn't?
ReplyDeletehttp://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2009/08/if-you-are-victim-of-police-officer.html
I've just located your webt site by sheer chance. I applaud and thank you for the education your giving people.
ReplyDeleteIt is one thing to be a victim of domestic violence; however the victimization doesn't stop when the whistle is blown. It is difficult when the abuser is a highly ranked member of the police department. Media contact you, distort comments made in confidence to domestic violence officials, follow you, splash your face and name on the news and in the papers and then I find my picture here. When does it stop? I have been a stay at home mom for several years and now that I am seeking employment to care for my children I find that no one wants to hire someone dealing with such a situation. Drag him through the mud, plaster his face everywhere, but why must the media post comments made in confidence to the domestic violence advocates as if they are direct quotes from me to them. It is just as exhausting dealing with this.............Continuously being victimized.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious how the news found out what you said in confidence to dv advocates. That's dangerous.
ReplyDeleteJenifer I didn't approve your comment because of the commercial link that might be dangerous that you had on the bottom of your comment.
ReplyDeleteOnce a statement is given to domestic violence officials and an epo is issued based on that statement - it becomes public record. My statement was on the news that evening despite the fact that I was told it would be confidential (WRONG). Not only was my statement, which is actually the dv wording of what you tell them, presented as a quote on the news - but they made it sound as if I gave them the direct quote. I had people calling and yelling at me for talking to the media - as if I would subject myself to more stress.
ReplyDeleteSo basically everything you posted here as a direct quote from me - is some ladies version of my story - my grammar isn't that bad. :-) I have to find somewhere in this mess!!!!!
You know that I don't which of the over 2000 posts on the blog you're referring to right? If you email me I can add an update to whatever post it is and say whatever there...
ReplyDeleteCOURAGE
ReplyDeleteWhere do I get my Courage? Where do I get my strength? Where do I get my determination? GOD!!!!
I’m sure many would feel that, I am speaking so negatively of the horrible abuse that I sustained many years ago. Well, I’m not!!!
I refuse to hide, I refuse to keep silent. My voice will help others who have been afraid, my voice will help many come out of that dark hole.
The abuse from the past has left me with a handicap and that is my vision. If GOD would bless me with wealth, I would give it up! I would rather have my vision back then any money in the world!!
I do not feel pity for myself; I am strong, positive and determined woman. I realized sometime ago that, coming out and speaking against Domestic Violence involving police officers would hit a nerve.
Many of us have not survived, many will live with scars but…..Many of us will speak out.
So, to those who are uncomfortable with my notes or my blogs, I pray that you will find it in your heart to show compassion to the woman, children and men who are victims and survivors of Domestic Violence.
My courage is what keeps me going and because of the GREAT SPIRIT. I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT!!!!
sad49, I copied your comment also here: http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2009/08/if-you-are-victim-of-police-officer.html
ReplyDeleteCLOUD WRITER, I THINK YOU ARE A OUTSTANDING PERSON. BECAUSE OF YOU AND SO MANY MORE, I AM ABLE TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE HORRIBLE ABUSE I SUSTAINED. I REFUSE TO HIDE, I REFUSE TO KEEP THE CODE OF SILENCE.
ReplyDeleteMY SUPPORT AND PRAYERS ARE ALWAYS WITH YOU!!!
MUCH RESPECT,
ROSA TORRES-SADLER
These comments are getting long so I want folks to know - when it gets long like this, eventually it forms a "next page" link at the bottom to see more comments.
ReplyDeleteI would like to take the opportunity to thank you for doing a wonderful job with this blog and would like to commend you on your hard work.
ReplyDeleteI was given the opportunity to review "Behind The Blue Wall" and I'm more than happy to let you know that your blog has been added to the Blogging Women directory.
I'm proud to add another quality blog to our women's blog directory.
Continued the great job you are doing and be sure to watch for our monthly contest where your blog could be listed in the "Featured Blogs" section!
I am disgusted with this form of police malfeasance. I know it is only one of many, but it is the one that affects so many more innocent folks than just the primary recepients of the abuse. I have been trying to bring home to the hearts and minds of citizens the need for citizens review boards in every city and town with a PD, and now with a blog of my own. I would appreciate any input from anyone who can relate to this need and support the cause. I look forward to corresponding with all of you.
ReplyDeleteBigBaldwin
www.bigbaldwin.blogspot.com
Tacoma WA finally got a review committee after our police chief (with a criminal background) killed his wife Crystal [Judson] Brame and himself. The proposed citizen's review board was HOT! Written well, and took a lot into consideration. By the time it was "approved" it was 100% toothless. It was stripped bare.
ReplyDeleteYA KNOW - the POLICE UNION is given much power in what will and won't be approved. It would be good for you to research where there are strong review boards and see what they did, how they did it, and what factors paved the way. I'd love to know more about that... what works.
About funding, ditto. In advocating for victims of officer-involved dv victims the number one rule is to not get entangled with funding from the powers that be.
I wish I had more time... I'd certainly join you in this venture. It's a good one. Remind me to peek in and see how it's going.
I used to track police union news but as the cases I was following increased I no longer had time. But what can be accomplished even in my narrow focus without addressing the power of the police unions?
[PA] 1 CPRB response to claim that a dv policy would leave officers "terrified" - Perhaps among the most compelling reasons to move forward affirmatively is the very substance of the opposition expressed by the Fraternal Order of Police.
[PA] Pittsburgh police "want to be able to excuse batterers & promote them..." - Women's advocates said they are angry at the delay and insistence by police brass and union officials that the chief, not a city ordinance, should lay down the rules governing officers accused of domestic abuse. "They just don't want a law. They want to be able do what they want to do. They want to be able to excuse batterers and promote them if necessary, and they don't want the citizens involved in this. This is just a total outrage"...
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ReplyDeleteAlthough the physical abuse may stop, the emotional and verbal rants will continue. I sometimes get so angry with myself for not following through, staying strong and pressing charges. Instead I allowed him to manipulate me into writing letters to say I will not cooperate. I wished so badly that the prosecuters would see through the coerced letters and realize my fear.....but no. Now as I proceed in divorce, I still have fear. He tells me I'm silly because he "had restraint." He didn't make me bleed or put me in the hospital. Wow, what restraint... Bruises, choking, threats, a gun - how can I not have fear? Does it ever end? From an outside stand point why would any woman want to return? It's so hard - I just want my family whole again.
ReplyDeleteI wish I could make your comment a post on the blog but there might be info there that identifies you, so your precious words will stay here to the side...
ReplyDeletebut it makes no sense to me in an assault or domestic case for the prosecutors to so easily accept a victims' recant or assurance that all is is well.
And don't hesitate to connect with support - here or elsewhere because the danger is so real. Even if you want to stay you have to leave breadcrumbs through the forest...
ReplyDeleteHere's a similar recent comment on one of the posts:
ReplyDelete"Anonymous has left a new comment...
Here is an update to this story for anyone who is curious as to what the outcome was. Out of fear of what he might do or who he might harm if he lost his job, his wife did not appear in court, therefore the restraining order was dropped. He got all his guns returned to him and he is back on the job. During a bitter divorce and custody battle he threatened to harm his first wife and she was denied a restraining order. What is going to happen next???"
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ReplyDeleteTo the person whose two comments I deleted. I posted your one post even though it was long enough to be a chapter of a book - the one where you pretend to be profiling me down to the color of my slippers.
ReplyDeleteThen I posted your second one where you pretend to be a prosecutor speaking for all prosecutors everywhere ("we the prosecution") admonishing a victim and advising her without knowing her details.
I can humor games a little bit but decided you take up (waste) too much space.
If you take yourself seriously and really feel superior I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. But I'm pretty sure you know you are just wasting space.
Madam your hipprocrisy has no bounds. Your entire site is a non-factual, lack of detail/non factual, bias tabloid. You should understand that people have differences of opinion and you post only what serves yourself, in order to boost your low self esteem in an attempt to make you feel "superior" The only one wasting space, and spending countless hours wasting time is you. Self pitty can really become disfunctional, do yourself a favor. Get up out of your chair, take a shower, toss out your pink slippers, comb your hair, put some make up on, a dab of perfume behind your ears. Call a friend and go out tonight and have some fun. You will find its a lot of fun. Madam your wallowing too much in self pitty. Get over it and move on. The weight loss will take a bit of time. I am also a personal trainer, well groomed and buffed. I'd be glad to help you. How about posting an image of yourself, you are obviously bright but I fear some depression is hampering you from your full potential. I can help you enjoy life, and give you the romantic passion and security you so despirately need. Think about it and possibly we could share an e-mail address. How long has it been since you felt the giddyness and newness of love? I really think I like you but I am a bit shy, the things you think that I write are bad? Well I guess you could point me in the right direction. I am very open minded. HMMM now I am sitting here and can't wait to hear from you.
ReplyDeleteWow! He just wrote a post directly out of the 'Manual for Abusers 101'. How he doesn't recognize what he wrote as being so flagrantly revealing of himself, is amazing. The letter reeks of smugness, misogyny and implicit threats. You need help man! Go get some.
DeleteThank you for shortening your opinion. It really was too long before. I think you got your same sentiments across, but more succinctly. (I knew you could do it.)
ReplyDeleteEverybody deserves to be heard, including you. Have a beautiful holiday.
ReplyDeleteNow...."Everybody deserves to be heard, including you" I take that as a bit demeaning but I understand you, acutally I enjoy that bit of cattyness in you. I'll try to be a bit more succinct but try to undersand I enjoy conversing with you. You remind me of one of my college professiors, I could talk to her all night. Your beauty shines in your articulate nature. Shall we share an e-mail address so we could keep out thoughts a bit more personal? I want to understand you more, perhaps our sharing of phylosophical concepts of our journey in life could bring us to a better understanding of each other. Just curious did you try my suggestion? I am also eager to view a photograph of yours. Nice bridge you have posted but I as well as I am sure other would like to see what you look like. By the images you did post I am taking it that you like nature and the out of doors? Merry Christmas to you too. I hope this new year will give the two of us more opportunity to share more of our selves with each other. If I sounded harsh at first I guess its kind of like a boy throwing a stone at a girl he likes. That statement most likely or surely does not go over well on a batters site but its the best I can do to explain it. I enjoy hearing form you and am eager to hear back. Gees I just can't stop sorry!
ReplyDeleteMERRY CHRISTMAS CLOUD WRITER, MAY YOUR STRENGH AND YOUR GREAT INSPIRATION CONTINUE TO HELP OTHERS LIKE MYSELF. I FEEL EXTREMELY BLESSED TO KNOW THAT, YOU ARE OUT THERE ADVOCATING FOR SO MANY!!! YOU ARE A GREAT BLESSING.
ReplyDeleteGOD BLESS,
WARMLY AND WITH MUCH RESPECT,
ROSAT TORRES-SADLER
I got this comment today:
ReplyDelete"I'm beginning to think maybe you are just upset because you couldn't make it on the street as a police officer. Perhaps Bitter??"
I get psychoanalyzed almost every day here. :)
Can I get the code for that display? I want to add it to my blog
ReplyDeleteSure, email me. Are you doing something on officer-involved dv? Which blog? I see 2.
ReplyDeleteGreat blog.
ReplyDeleteMy ex bf, a L.A.P.D LT. was physically abusive. He laughed at me when I said I'd go to his division and show them the marks.
Then he'd do things that wouldn't show, like shoving a pillow over my face and making it hard for me to breathe, or bending my fingers backwards, or puncturing my eardrum because he sucked so hard when he was 'kissing' it.
He had a prior gf committ suicide.
His 1st wife had committed sucide. I've always wondered if it was.
His gun - a 45. Their bedroom.
I would love for you to contact me.
ReplyDeleteANOTHER BOSTON POLICE OFFICER IN TROUBLE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE (BEATING HIS CHILD) The major papers that are in the pocket of the Boston Police (The Boston Globe and Herald) aren't covering it but the local paper where he got arrested is.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.patriotledger.com/news/cops_and_courts/x53548779/Randolph-police-charge-Boston-cop-with-assault
Wow, I am definitely a virgin in the blog community after finding this stuff.
ReplyDeleteBut your blog will be listed on mine as the one to watch and follow.
A while back, in my archives, I had a short post about cops, and about a particular bad day that I had with one. Nothing sensational, just a bit of "steam release", I guess one could call it.
And then I had to question if they only get like that when the uniform goes on.
My latest post had to do with blogs being a place to comfort, inform , and expose.
Everyone, in this country, needs to be exposed to your blog.
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/sep/24/fort-myers-police-officer-arrested-accused-trying/?partner=RSS
ReplyDeleteHere is another story to hit the papers today.
Sad that this goes on all the time. Im glad to see this issue brought out of the shadows and into the light. Its a real problem.
Im a survivor and ex wife or a former police officer.
my ex from a small dept was abusive as well. I read the stories and my heart cringes.
ReplyDeleteThese guys are experts at taking control and destroying you if you dont play by their rules.
Im one of the lucky ones. I got out alive. I still have some fear but I think its healthy and a reminder to never let my guard down because he is out there and they dont forget.
To all of us survivors..way to go! To all who are trying to survive..here are my thoughts based upon my own experiences. I realize not all situations are the same. But if you see yourself here ..please get help now.
Get away and get out now!
Document document document, dates times events... Write journals with dates and times, have best friends or people close to you that witness things do the same. Keep your journal at a friends house or in a very good hiding place.
Never EVER think a restraining order will keep you safe but go get one if you must!
You are smarter than you know. Tap into your smarts and use your brain. You are your biggest and best chance and what YOU know to be true about your ex and what he will do and how he will behave... so use your info to stay ahead and to stay alive. Do what you must do because in my experience the system worked against me for awhile and during that time I could have been dead. Cops stick together, police departments cover up, judges dont understand the problem and your friends and neighbors wont want to piss off your abusive cop spouse as long as he/she is driving around with a badge and a gun.
If you use your head, you will be lucky like me and survive the ordeal. I still check my back, I will never have the safe feeling I had before I met him but I have a good life now and thats worth everything and they dont want you to have that. So do what you must and stay alive!
God Bless.
Thank you for the link, and about the advice - it'a all wise and
ReplyDeletethank you for that too.
I posted your advice as a blog post here:
ReplyDeleteFrom Anonymous: "To all who are trying to survive, here are my thoughts based upon my own experiences..."
A police officer murder suicide happened 2 weeks ago in Walthan, MA
ReplyDeletehttp://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1295965
I'm ADHD so sometimes I miss the obvious but it looks like he is a gardener. I could be wrong. (Help me out if I am.) Either way, good lookin' out. Keep remembering me because I do want to know...
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Boston Police officer arrested after incident in Malden
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/malden/2010/11/boston_police_officer_arrested.html
Thank you.
ReplyDelete"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
ReplyDelete- Oscar Wilde
Married to an officer. Sometimes I think he'll kill me and then himself...
ReplyDeleteBelieve your gut. Get out of there or at least contact me and we can talk about options and resources. Time might not be on your side.
ReplyDeleteLoving you and praying for you.
Me.
My email address link is above on the post.
My sister said the same thing.She waited to long,her officer husband shot her 8 times and saved the last one for himself. Please leave, take what you can and leave.YOU CAN STILL HAVE A LIFE. My heart hurts so much cause she's gone.Please leave. I WILL PRAY FOR SOMEONE TO HELP YOU MOVE. CHICAGO ILL.
ReplyDeleteall of my ex's co-workers knew he was beating his current wife and did nothing. She came to me and I helped her through everything, her kids a shelter and so on. ~ a year later they got back together, now they are both after me ~ and I live in fear, but won't back down. I will continue to protect myself legally and personally. He has brainwashed everyone in his house, including my daughter ~ it's very sad !
ReplyDelete(Those are two different anonymous's.)
ReplyDeletehttp://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1304760
ReplyDeleteYou'd want to keep an eye on this. They're trying to keep it quiet but not it's not working for them.
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/crime_files/crime_watch/boston-police-officer-charged-with-assault-on-wife-20110219
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/02/20/boston_officer_is_arrested_on_assault_charges/
Mr. Anti-crime himself in the pages of the Globe:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/01/01/2007_drop_in_crime_buoys_hub_leaders/
Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI think the slideshow finally died, hosted on a website that was sold and ceased to keep that feature. I'll save up for Roxio software and do another one, more current.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.therepublic.com/view/story/47533833fee849b893ab663c6d19058f/FL--Officer-Shoots-at-Officer/
ReplyDeleteThank you. I'm on it. Been gathering the articles and downloading videos. I'm glad I waited because more info came out. But please :) keep keeping me informed.
ReplyDeleteI am very happy to go through this blog..Gave me lot of information..Thanks a lot..I am sure of visiting more times..
ReplyDeleteIf this were Facebook I'd click "Like."
ReplyDeleteTo any police officers who come to this page thinking that this is just another cop hating blog, I implore you to read more. I am a police officer in Texas, and I came to this blog through a facebook page that was alot less friendly than this one. This blog and the facebook page are not out to say that all officers are big, bad men that beat their wives. This blog is to only educate about a well documented fact that police officers are statistically at a higher risk of being involved in family violence. The fact is that many of those that do engage in family violence tend to flaunt their badge as their get out of jail free card. This blog compared to many that I have read highlights a problem while still holding police officers in high regard. I too was skeptical and defensive, but the moderator though passionate and sometimes heated conversation earned my respect. We may not agree on everything, but I see a partner that has nothing but good intentions.
ReplyDeleteYou made my day. :)
ReplyDeleteMINE TOO :)!!
Deletethis site is a fucking joke
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2012/02/donald-pillsbury-state-trooper-who-allegedly-attacked-his-wife-suspended-indefinitely-without-pay/PfTfqga0Zsx9sOF7gS2ObJ/index.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/06/19/arrested-waltham-police-chief-held-without-bail-dangerousness-hearing-resume-thursday/rRtzapNqfl0oJEtpwRjbNJ/story.html
DeleteLCONCORD — Thomas M. LaCroix, the Waltham police chief arrested last week after an alleged domestic violence incident, will remain held without bail for another two days, a judge ruled Tuesday.
Concord District Court Judge Paul Yee, who held a dangerousness hearing today, agreed to continue the hearing on Thursday to give the Middlesex district attorney’s office and Lacroix’s lawyer time to agree on a facility where LaCroix will await trial.
The judge denied requests by prosecutors for two mental health evaluations, which LaCroix’s lawyer said were unnecessary.
At prosecutors’ request, the judge ordered that LaCroix avoid all contact with the two victims of the incident.
After emerging from a door in the back of the courtroom wearing a dark suit, LaCroix stood behind a brick wall during the hearing that blocked the view of spectators and journalists.
LaCroix allegedly assaulted his wife and a female neighbor during two separate violent incidents Tuesday in Maynard, where he lives. He was arraigned Friday in a bed at Emerson Hospital in Concord, the Globe reported.
I collected a lot of interesting things from your blog especially its discussion. From the comments in your posts, I believe I’m not alone having all the enjoyment here! keep up the great work.
ReplyDeleteI am living the "nightmare"...help.
ReplyDeleteTo the person above, my email address is below.
ReplyDeleteTo the person who sent in a comment today that was very flattering, this is a suspicious area of interest - we are all very careful. I'm afraid to click on the link you sent and so don't want to share it. Sorry. It's probably completely legit. Some folks would like to see my computer rendered inoperable though. (I'm laughing.) So I am very careful about links - even those that are accompanied with such interest and kind words. If you would really like the info you requested, please also use the email address below. Much love...
To the person who sent in a comment today regarding a named person being an abuser of women, I hope you understand that I can't post that.
ReplyDeleteany minute "load more" link will start appearing because the comments have gotten long - so watch for it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/arthur-roldan-nypd-officer-arrested-raping-ex-girlfriend-gunpoint_n_1732475.html
DeleteHere's one for you one of NYC ' s finest
Their chief of detectives:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/10/24/boston-police-superintendent-bruce-holloway-placed-leave-department-probes-girlfriend-allegations/Z5gd5prOdBqEaQYARuJYeO/story.html
Victims of Kamau
ReplyDeleteLately I've been hearing from other victims of Diop Kamau and his associates at the Police Complaint Center. These victims are located from one coast of the U.S. to the other!--and they all say they are very frightened of Kamau because of the threats, demands for more money, publishing of their private/personal information illegally on his website (including their SS#s), harassment, slander, and libel they experience when they confront him or file complaints against him.
http://vocct.blogspot.com/2009/06/victims-of-kamau.html
You might want to look into this: http://www.news4jax.com/news/fire-claims-life-of-lake-city-officer-brandi-jackson/-/475880/22728780/-/11352r8z/-/index.html
ReplyDeleteThank you.
DeleteFIRE CLAIMS LIFE OF LAKE CITY OFFICER BRANDI JACKSON: 2nd officer found outside burning house hospitalized
wjxt.com
Author: Hailey Winslow
General assignment reporter, hwinslow@wjxt.com
Published On: Oct 31 2013
[Excerpts] ...Police said the homeowner, identified as Investigator David Greear (pictured below), was able to escape from the burning house and was transported to Lake City Medical Center with minor injuries. Once the fire was extinguished by Columbia County Fire Rescue, the body of a woman was found in the remains of the home. The victim was later identified as Lake City Police Department Officer Brandi Jackson. Jackson, the mother of two preschool-aged children, had been with the department for two months and two weeks... "From all the statements and the evidence that we've seen so far, it's completely accidental," [fellow-Investigator Craig] Strickland said.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/fire-claims-life-of-lake-city-officer-brandi-jackson/-/475880/22728780/-/11352r8z/-/index.html
Check this story out. This was no accident! http://www.gainesville.com/article/20131102/ARTICLES/131109908#gsc.tab=0
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I just watched the Frontline documentary A Death in St. Augustine and I do not believe she committed suicide. All of the evidence points toward homicide and as stated in the documentary, if the investigation was done properly the first time and not done by the department the deputy sheriff worked for then I believe it would've been proven that the young lady was killed. My heart and prayers goes out to the family and friends of Michelle O'Connell and hopefully one day justice will be served but if not just know that the ultimate judge (God) will punish him for taking away such a beautiful friend, sister, daughter, and most important mother, before it was her time.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2015/02/10/breaking-apd-officer-on-paid-leave-due-to-ties-to-samantha-dean/23197109/
ReplyDeleteI heard your site on the documentary about the death of Michelle O'Connell. I had a brief relationship with a New Jersey state trooper that was sexually violent. I highly doubt that I was his only victim. And, who do you call when the perpetrator is the police? I admire you for your commitment to these issues. You've brought me hope in knowing that I am not the woman who has been through this.
ReplyDeleteYou contact the United States Justice Department. And tell them what is happening to you! Or has happened to you.. They are required to look into these things. No one should have to go through what you did. I'm sorry you did..
DeleteWe wish things worked that way. They don't.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.11alive.com/mb/news/local/investigations/trigger-who-shot-the-officers-wife2/346961107
I beg you to take a look at the Molly Young murder (March 24,2012). If you want to view a case that is blatantly murder called suicide (later changed to Undetermined), this is the case for you! Her ex-boyfriend, Richie Minton claims to have slept through the gunshot to the left side of the right handed woman, while her body was found to be right next to his bed. Too many discrepancies here for me to even name them all, but he was a Police Dispatcher at the time; as was his mother and his father was a County Deputy in a neighboring county. There’s way too many law enforcement officials who harm their significant others and get by with it. This breeds a different kind of corruption that HAS TO BE STOPPED! I know details about the who, what, when and where are not always known and we tend to jump to conclusions, one thing for certain is that these cases should always go to the top of the stack and they SHOULD ALWAYS be investigated with an open and non-prejudicial mind to the fullest extent. Molly was murdered at his apartment in Carbondale, Illinois and he has not served one day behind bars.
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