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Wednesday, March 3, 2010

[CA] On day ONE, investigators said Officer Macias killed his own son Brian in self defense.

Many LAPD officials were at the scene late Thursday...

It appears that Los Angeles County Sheriff's investigators KNOW ON THE FIRST DAY why 12-year veteran Los Angeles Police Officer Fernando Macias shot and killed his own son. They JUST KNOW.

17 year old Brian Matthew Macias is dead and can't say a word, so...

THE SAME DAY that Officer Macias shot and killed his son, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Homicide Bureau Lt. David Coleman said

"It appears to be self-defense."

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Jeff Gordon early on the NEXT DAY:

"It was self-defense."

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Sheriff's Spokesman Steve Whitmore:

"It was a family and he was fearing for his life. He assaulted the man and the man was forced to defend himself"...

Brian is voiceless, but his friends aren't:

...Monrovia High School seniors Paul Gilbert and Chris Rivera said Brian Macias has been their close friend and classmate since middle school. "We've know him forever. I can't believe he's gone," Gilbert said. "He was always respectful to his father because he was a cop and Brian wanted to be a cop." Gilbert and Rivera said they question the circumstances under which the 5-foot-9-inch tall and 140-pound Macias instilled mortal fear in his father... "He wanted to go to college with us in Arizona and join the force to makes his dad happy, but he can't do that anymore," Rivera said...

[Be sure to see in comment section the article regarding the soon-after death of Brain's 23 year old brother, Gregory. Brian Matthew Macias and Gregory Philip Macias share a headstone.]

HOMICIDE INVESTIGATORS REMAIN TIGHT-LIPPED OVER 17-YEAR-OLD SHOT BY COP DAD
Pasadena Star News
By Thomas Himes Staff Writer
Posted: 03/01/2010
[Excerpts] Sheriff's officials Monday remained tight-lipped about a domestic dispute that led a veteran LAPD reserve officer to shoot and kill his 17-year-old son inside their Monrovia area home. Los Angeles Police Department Reserve Officer Fernando Macias shot and killed his son, Brian Macias, Thursday after the teen allegedly attacked him with a picture frame, according to an LAPD statement. "During the argument, Brian grabbed a large glass framed picture off a wall and attacked Macias with the frame. As Brian advanced on Macias, he attempted to strike him with the framed picture. Macias backed up a flight of stairs and fired one round at Brian. The round struck Brian in the chest and he fell to the floor," the LAPD statement said. Sheriff's homicide investigators are handling the investigation, but officials would not confirm the statement's narrative of events. The shooting appeared to be in self-defense, sheriff's officials have said. "I won't confirm or deny that. It's part of our investigation," sheriff's homicide Lt. Dave Coleman said... "The Los Angeles Police Department's Force Investigation Division (FID) also responded and assumed responsibility for the administrative investigation," according to the LAPD statement. Coleman said he is not worried LAPD officers contaminated the crime scene. "Any access they would have had would have been under the supervision of myself or the investigators," Coleman said... Fernando Macias is a 12-year veteran of LAPD's reserve force... Fernando Macias has not been arrested or charged with a crime in the homicide... [Full article here]

TEENAGE MALE ATTACKS AN OFFICER LEADING TO AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING
LAPD Blog:
March 01, 2010
[Excerpt] ...Reserve Officer Fernando Macias, 12 years and 8 months with the department, was at his home in the city of Monrovia. He and his son, Brian Macias, 17 years of age, became involved in an argument. During the argument, Brian grabbed a large glass framed picture off a wall and attacked Macias with the frame. As Brian advanced on Macias, he attempted to strike him with the framed picture. Macias backed up a flight of stairs and fired one round at Brian. The round struck Brian in the chest and he fell to the floor... [Full article here]

TEEN SHOT AT HOME IN COUNTY AREA NEAR MONROVIA-ARCADIA
Pasadena Star News
Brian Days
02/25/2010
[Excerpts] A teenage boy was shot and killed Thursday in an unincorporated county area between Monrovia and Arcadia, authorities said. The shooting was reported about 6 p.m. in the 100 block of East Andre Street, sheriff's Deputy Aura Sierra said. A person of interest, an adult, was being questioned late Thursday, sheriff's Lt. Tom McNeal said... Detectives for the sheriff's Homicide Bureau were sent to help in the investigation. [Full article here]

...Many LAPD officials were at the scene late Thursday. Coleman said they were only monitoring the investigation...

RESERVE OFFICER SHOOTS, KILLS YOUNG MAN IN COUNTY AREA NEAR MONROVIA-ARCADIA
Pasadena Star News
Brian Days brian.day@sgvn.com
626-578-6300, ext. 4586
Posted: 02/25/2010
[Excerpts] A Los Angeles Police Department reserve officer apparently shot and killed a young man in self-defense Thursday in an unincorporated county area between Monrovia and Arcadia, sheriff's officials said. The shooting was reported about 6 p.m. at a home in the 100 block of East Andre Street, sheriff's Deputy Aura Sierra said. Sheriff's Homicide Bureau Lt. David Coleman said the shooting occurred after "some type of family argument" at the home... "It appears to be self-defense," Coleman said of the shooting. He declined to say whether the young man was related to the officer or whether he was armed... Many LAPD officials were at the scene late Thursday. Coleman said they were only monitoring the investigation. [Full article here]

OFF-DUTY LAPD RESERVE OFFICER FATALLY SHOOTS SON IN MONROVIA
latimesblogs.latimes.com
Andrew Blankstein and Robert J. Lopez
February 25, 2010 11:00 pm
[Excerpts] An off-duty Los Angeles Police Department reserve officer fatally shot his son Thursday evening at the family's home in Monrovia, authorities said. The shooting took place about 6 p.m. in the 100 block of Andre Street, said Steve Whitmore, spokesman for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. The name and age of the victim were not released... "We don't know if there's going to be an arrest," Whitmore said. "It's early in the investigation." The officer's name was not released. [Full article here]

CORONER IDENTIFIES 17-YEAR-OLD SHOT TO DEATH BY POLICE OFFICER FATHER
Pasadena Star News
Posted: 02/26/2010 09:27:28 AM PST
84 Comments
[Excerpts] The Los Angeles County Department of Coroner Friday identified the 17-year-old boy who was shot to death by his father in an unincorporated county area near Monrovia. Brian Macias died Thursday night after his father fired on him during an argument... The boy's father is a reserve LAPD officer. He was not arrested, and authorities have not identified him. Los Angeles County Sheriff's homicide detectives are investigating the homicide... [Full article here]

OFF-DUTY OFFICER SHOOTS, KILLS SON
myFOXla.com
Reporter: Bob Decastro
Posted by: Scott Coppersmith
Friday, 26 Feb 2010
[Excerpts] A shooting in which an off-duty Los Angeles Police Department reserve officer killed his teenage son in self-defense at the family's home in the Monrovia area was under investigation today, authorities said... "It was self-defense," Deputy Jeff Gordon said early today... The son was pronounced dead at the scene, Sierra said... [Full article here]

DETECTIVES: RESERVE LAPD OFFICER SHOT SON IN SELF-DEFENSE
InsideSoCal
Frank Girardot, Brian Day
February 26, 2010 2:31 PM
4 Comments [Excerpts] ...[A group of young men who identified themselves as Macias' friends] said said Macias aspired to go to college and become a police officer. They doubted that an argument between the teen and his father needed to end in death. "He was always respectful to his father because his father was a cop and he wanted to be a cop," said Paul Gilbert, 17. "He was just a nice kid, he didn't mean any harm to anybody." [Full article here]

FRIENDS MOURN THE LOSS OF MONROVIA TEEN KILLED BY FATHER IN "SELF-DEFENSE"
San Gabriel Valley Tribune
By Thomas Himes
Posted: 02/26/2010 04:41:16 PM PS
93 comments
[Excerpts] Monrovia High School students Friday mourned the loss of one of their own after he was shot and killed by his police officer father during an argument. Sheriff's officials said Brian Macias' father, a Los Angeles Police Department reserve officer, was acting in self-defense Thursday when he opened fire on his 17-year-old son. "Homicide investigators and prosecutors determined it to be self-defense," sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said. "It was a family and he was fearing for his life. He assaulted the man and the man was forced to defend himself"... Monrovia High School seniors Paul Gilbert and Chris Rivera said Brian Macias has been their close friend and classmate since middle school. "We've know him forever. I can't believe he's gone," Gilbert said. "He was always respectful to his father because he was a cop and Brian wanted to be a cop." Gilbert and Rivera said they question the circumstances under which the 5-foot-9-inch tall and 140-pound Macias instilled mortal fear in his father. "It just doesn't make any sense. He was a nice kid. He didn't meant any harm to anybody," Rivera said. "His father should have handled it a different way. He didn't have to kill him." Prosecutors with the District Attorney's Office Justice System Integrity Division will oversee the sheriff's investigation... Coroner's officials would not say Friday afternoon how many times or where on the body Macias was shot because they had yet to complete their report, Assistant Coroner Ed Winter said. Rivera and Gilbert said the tragedy will have long lasting effects. "He wanted to go to college with us in Arizona and join the force to makes his dad happy, but he can't do that anymore," Rivera said... [Full article here]
[police officer involved domestic violence oidv intimate partner violence (IPV) abuse law enforcement public safety fatality fatalities murder california state brotherhood LASD los angeles sheriff's department unsolved unresolved]

33 comments:

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    ...So sad. I hope they investigate the father. We have known Brian since he was a boy playing ball at Kare. This is CRAZY sad. RIP Brian and may God give your family peace in this horrible time...

    ...My friends live on Andre street and we all know this kid Brian, he is a good kid and anybody who knows him will tell you the same thing. The father needs to be investigated, he MU...

    ...I have known Brian since he was 5 years old and my family has had the honor of sharing time with him and we know he was a good kid. Silly , funny and cheerful. And I know for a fact he loved his parents especially his father and I just really find it hard to believe he would hurt his father. He always wanted to see what else he could do to make his dad happy and proud.May God Bless you Brian and put you in peaceful place where happiness is never ending. You were loved by so many others and you will be missed. RIP...

    ...I have known this family for 10 years. This is a shame. Something must have gone horribly wrong for this to happen. Both the parents are supportive of their children and kind people...

    ...Self defense?? Really?? I know teenagers can be challenging - but shoot to kill?? Brian deserved better. RIP Brian...

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    ...Tierra sorry you lost your friend...

    ...we miss u brian. you will always b in our thoughts and hearts as that fun loving boy we grew up with. our prayers go out to ur family...

    ...he was a good kid. and his father loved him. dont comment if u dont know...

    ...u dont know anything he was a great kid. and his parents loved him with all they had...

    ...his father is one of the sweetest people ull meet dont go ther it was all a big mistake...

    ...ive been life long family friends with them. his father is one of the most loving people ull ever meet. he never ment for this to happen...

    ...It hurts to know that we were once together in the same English class and worked together and look back and see that he will not come back. He was a nice guy and had many goals he wanted to accomplish...

    ...wow..i cnt believe my real close friend is gone i jus found out today at school from another friend a student actualy im realy upset.. i would like to know if nybody is reading this if both monrovia high school, mountain park aka canyon high school all students and faculty members, friends of brian macias would like to pay tribute nd in memory of him as we once knew him now gone. i remember his kindness nd humor. i pray for family healing during this time...

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    ...well u dnt know him like i do he nd i kicked it together all da damn time well its fate u live life to da fullest. now dats hes gone im realy in mourn rite now soo please whoever reads diz let those whov known him mourn in peace. i will always remember a great friend brother whos so loyal funny kind nd loved those who were close to him. ima miss u now ur in a better place now. we all love u from ur family nd friends. tears. r.i.p brain macias -1992-2010 -best friend brother nd son to a wonderfull family...

    ...RIP Brian. I hope there is further investigation into the incident. It just doesn't seem right that the father shot to kill. Brian was a good kid. This is surreal. My prayers go out to his family...

    ...My thoughts and prayers go out to those friends and family he left behind...

    ...i knew him, harmless kid....

    ...Where is the mother?...

    ...Wow insider your such an idiot, I knew brian and he didn't have anything coming to him the dad could have used a way better alternative to the problem...

    ...I've known Brian for years and I just cannot comprehend how his father could do something like this. Brian was never one of the strongest guys, he was running at him with a picture frame!! It shouldnt have been hard to take him down or back away and call the real policemen. What bothers me the most is how much Brian looked up to his dad and the thought of his life being taken away by his own father is extremely depressing. My condolences go out to his sister and mother though I cant imagine what they are going through. RIP Gumble ill miss you bro...

    ...R.I.P brian, you will be missed by so many who loved you, im gonna miss you making me laugh so hard i nearly pee... my thoughts are with you and your family right now...

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    ...This cop is P/O/S NO ONE will NEVER love him as much as his son did...

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  5. A FRIEND OF BRIAN MACIASMarch 12, 2010

    I Knew Brian M. Macias personaly, he was the calmest(never violent), nicest guy i'v ever met. Fernando Macias his father shouldn't have reacted in such horrific way. Hes an reserve LAPD cop, couldn't he of subdued his son. A picture frame would only cause so much damage, but a FUCCCCKIN GUN. What is this woulrd coming too???????
    REST IN PEACE :BRIAN M. MACIAS (GUMBEL)
    YOU WILL BE MISSED ='(

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  6. His father killed him i knew brian macias very well. We were supposed to hang out the following day.Brians father always had some negative remarks about brian. Brian was never violent in any way. Brians father is covering up becuase he killed his son, to my belief he is forcing his wife to keep quiet about what happen which brian told me himseld his dad would minauplate and have his mother on control.His dad has no remorse for what he did everyone who ever seen or spoken to his father would tell you he will say some excuse in jusstifying in killing his son. Brian Macias we will always see you as a homie for life!

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  7. I didn't know Brian, but to have a young life taken in such a manner is a violation of the grandest kind. His father, being an officer and an adult, should have had better sense than to pull a gun on his very own son. Whether it was a mistake or not, he should be prosecuted like any other person or criminal who makes the same mistake in taking a defenseless life. You should be ashamed of yourself and reap the consequences of your actions. I hope the investigators do not hold back in dealing with of their own.

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  8. i hope his father can live with the fact he killed his own son...

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  9. "Defenseless life?" Didn't he carry sharp glass toward his father and escalate the situation?

    And I see a lot of his 'friends' calling him homie and stuff similar. A few even talk in gang talk above: "well u dnt know him like i do he nd i kicked it together all da damn time well its fate u live life to da fullest" That doesn't say a lot about his character...

    If you weren't there, you have no idea if the boy threatened his father's life, recently got on drugs, or similarly snapped over something. No one expects deadly force against one's own child as an answer for anything, but keep in mind that the facts are not entirely known.

    Teenagers can be hormonal brats and sometimes get mixed up in things that make them act out of character. I remember people from high school that were intelligent, destined to become something great, to hear a couple of years later they committed suicide or were arrested for felony criminal charges. It can happen overnight. Don't rule out anything. There was an investigation, but since it's family and private, you won't hear about what they found.

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  10. THE POLICE WERE ANNOUNCING THE FINDING AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME. PUH-LEEZ. AND HOMIE DOESN'T MEAN GANG. IDIOT.

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  11. Hopefully - gang or no gang, we can't kill our kids.

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  12. i miss you brian<3

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  13. Older brother of slain teen dies
    San Gabriel Valley Tribune
    By Thomas Himes San Gabriel Valley Tribune, West Covina, Calif.
    Publication: San Gabriel Valley Tribune (West Covina, California)
    Date: Monday, March 15 2010

    Mar. 15--The older brother of a 17-year-old boy who was shot to death by his Los Angeles Police Department officer father also has died.

    Paramedics found the body of Gregory Macias, 24, about 1 p.m. Saturday inside a friend's home in the 200 block of South Oak Knoll Avenue, Pasadena police Lt. Tracey Ibarra said.

    While an investigation is on-going, police do not suspect foul play or suicide, Ibarra said.

    Two weeks ago, Gregory's brother, Brian, suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the chest during an argument with his father Fernando Macias, a reserve LAPD officer, while in their home in the unincorporated county area near Monrovia, according to officials.

    Fernando Macias has not returned calls since the shooting.

    Police said Gregory Macias went out to a Pasadena bar with his friends the night before he died.

    Family members said while they're overwhelmed by the tragedies they believe their faith will help them cope with the deaths.

    "His little brother wasn't at peace, I know he went to take care of him to make sure he's at peace," said Macias' uncle, Lou Monreal. "Everyone's so numb they don't even know what's going on."

    Gregory Macias graduated from the UC San Diego with a pre-medical degree last spring and was preparing to serve as a medical aid worker in Africa, Monreal said.

    "He's been volunteering all over before med-school," Monreal said. "He went to Guatamala and was supposed to leave for

    Africa in April."

    Police are waiting for toxicology reports from the coroner. Such reports usually take four to eight weeks.

    "His body obviously reacted to something," Ibarra said.

    The Department of Coroner has yet to determine Macias' cause of death, coroner's Lt. Fred Corral said.

    Monreal said Macias received a series of vaccinations on Thursday and Friday he believes contributed to his death.

    "He went to sleep around 3:30 a.m. Friday and never woke up," Monreal said. "This is beyond what anyone can imagine. We haven't even buried Brian yet."

    Brian was cremated last week and a private memorial was held for immediate family members only, Monreal said.

    Sheriff's officials have said Fernando Macias killed Brian in self-defense, but the investigation is on-going.

    thomas.himes@sgvn.com

    626-962-8811, ext. 2477

    http://www.allbusiness.com/crime-law/criminal-offenses-crimes-against/14118030-1.html

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  14. Who was in the house with Gregory to verify that no one came to visit betweeen when he went to sleep and when he was found? Where had he eaten recently? Where are the toxicology results?

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  15. I went to a boarding school with brian in Utah and got to know him pretty well. All brian ever talked about was how much he loved his mom and dad and how sorry he was for disappointing them. I cant believe this all happened but i hope his soul rests in peace, he was a good kid.

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  16. It's very sad and ugly that Brian's life can be snuffed so easily because of who his dad is.

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  17. Does anyone know if the case has been officially closed or is there a possibility the Dad could still be arrested?

    Why did the newspapers never follow up on this?

    Sad!

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  18. I'd love to know if anything happens, and if I see that it has I will definitely post it. On some of these cases nothing does happen - on some there is an arrest months later.

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  19. AnonymousMay 23, 2011

    Still thinking about him. He was one of my best friends in middle school. Still shocked and confused. His dad hugged me at the funeral, something I don't ever think I'll get over... RIP Brian you are still missed.

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  20. This is SO sad and appears SO dirty. I'm working on a list that will be made public and Brian will be on it. Hopefully we can get folks to take a second look at the outrageous cases like this.

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  21. AnonymousJune 14, 2011

    This is making me more insane. Last week a cop, LT., shot and killed his 17 yr. old son who was, allegedly was attacking him with a 5 inch bladed hunting knife. Much more of a problen than Brian and his father. Brian was armed with a plastic picture frame, the Dollar Store type, and was shot and killed. Guess what....???? Fernado, the father walked!!!!!!!!! Yes Brian grew from 5-9...140 but that can't be that large.
    I have a theory...and like it or not...that too many cops want to be superman....how do they do that? steroids Take them and get big and powerful...take them and watch your aggression, anger and combativeness level rise. I am not saying that either LT Schmitz or Officer Marcias were on steroids....but did anyone check....this world is so messed up when there is so much concern about pro athelets using 'roids and no body gives a thought about the other group of phyical pros who could be using them.....Still can't believe that Marcias walked.......I hope Shmitz isn't so lucky! And what really happened to his BIG brother?

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  22. I've been working on a post for Stephen Schmitz, and I thought of Brian right away. But you can't accuse people of murder. You can say wtf. But if you are wrong it's so harmful. And we can't guess about someone's family deaths, like the big brother. Too harmful again. It's better to spend energy trying to find or confirm the truth.

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    1. He is guilty, if you don'tknw the man then don't talk. He's a sadistic indivual, silver tongued, and able to twist people into his reasoning. If you knew him, you'd know, and don't even try to pull "well I do know him, so there" I'm a relative, I know this man, i truely do. The truth is Brian did have drugs in his system, drugs his father bought for him, He admitted it himself he would buy drugs for Brian so he wouldn't go roaming the streets in search of them. Isn't that in itself a crime? Contributing to the deliquency of a minor? In any case, this man is a terrible human being

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  23. It was obvious this was not self defence because all picture frames in their house that are big enough to "intimidate" are downstairs in the main livingroom which are opposite to the stairs leading up to the parents room which is obviously where any officer would store his gun. Meaning at some point of the dispute, fernando turned his back on brian walked up the stairs, made a left and had still had time to take his gun out of wherever he had it, return from his room "while still being attacked" and fired off one shot at brian who was supposedly still at the base of the stairs...yup sounds like self defence to me.

    -Christopher Rivera

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    1. Two years later and I'm still waiting for justice. I didn't like the story from the start and have been waiting for a conviction. I hadn't seen Brian in years, but even being an older friend I know how kind and gentle he was and how much he looked to his dad for approval. No man, regardless of position or circumstance, should bring harm to their son; their own flesh and blood. It's comforting to know he had such good friends. I wish the real story of what happened that night would surface so all his friends could find comfort knowing the truth. Peaceful wishes Brian. You are still in the thoughts, and prayers, of so many.

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    2. Thank you for those words, He is dearly missed by his Family, His Aunt and Uncle miss him dearly, as do his cousins, myself, my brothers, and sister. Still, I wish we could do him justice against a corrupt system of police...

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  24. Looks like someone got away with murder.

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  25. I miss you, Brian. I think of you and Greg almost everyday, I hope you were there to greet grandma when she passed....

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  26. WHAT HAPPENED TO GREG?

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  27. Brothers Brian Matthew Macias and Gregory Philip Macias share a headstone.
    (Photo added to blog post above.)

    Burial:
    Queen of Heaven Cemetery
    Rowland Heights
    Los Angeles County
    California, USA
    Plot: Section D, Tier 48, Row 168

    Brian Matthew Macias
    Birth: Jun. 27, 1992
    Death: Feb. 25, 2010
    Created by: Ann O
    Record added: Oct 01, 2011
    Find A Grave Memorial# 77436083
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=macias&GSfn=brian&GSmn=matthew&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=77436083&df=all&

    Gregory Philip Macias
    Birth: Jul. 21, 1986
    Death: Mar. 13, 2010
    Created by: Ann O
    Record added: Oct 01, 2011
    Find A Grave Memorial# 77436084
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=MACI&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSsr=201&GRid=77436084&+

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  28. I miss you Brian. Just imaged if we had our kid. I'm sorry. God knows why.

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