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(I was away from the blog most of July so I'm going over what I missed.)
NO CHARGES FILED AGAINST GROVEPORT CHIEF
The Eagle-Gazette
BY MORGAN DAY
July 22, 2009
LANCASTER -Prosecutors have decided not to file charges against the Groveport chief of police, who allegedly was involved in a domestic violence dispute with two family members. A report from the Fairfield County Sheriff's Office indicated Police Chief Gary York pushed his son and wife at the family's Hillbrook Drive home in Lancaster, where the mother and son live... According to the report, York arrived at the house unannounced about 9:30 p.m. May 26. He told his son and wife he wanted to retrieve cell phones for which he paid the bills. His son refused to let York in the house. York pushed him and drew his hand back "as if he was going to punch him," the report said. His wife allegedly picked up a set of keys York dropped on the ground, and York grabbed her hand, leaving a cut from the keys. The report also said York pushed his wife several times as the dispute
made its way out of the house and into the yard.
York left the scene before deputies arrived. When deputies arrived at his Canal Winchester home, they reported finding his vehicle but [police officer involved domestic violence law enforcement fatality fatalities murder ohio teflon jail]
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ReplyDeleteI saw on the internet this guy is looking for a new job. Why would another department hire him if a hint of this is true? I'm sure there are other officers with impeccable records and no hint of violence.
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ReplyDeleteAnd this guy still carries a gun?????
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ReplyDeleteAn abusive wife? Has he filed charges against her for that?
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ReplyDeleteLet's agree it's time to take the comments down for this blog post.
ReplyDeleteI agree..take the comments down. what's that saying: Sticks and stones may break my bones but,words will never hurt me!!!!! GOD BE WITH EVERYONE!!! HE'S THE ONE WE WILL ALL ANSWER TO IN THE END!!!!
ReplyDeleteI kept the two posts that each ask a good question, and this great post above that reminds us who we are answerable to.
ReplyDeleteWhy was his vehicle there when police showed up, but he was gone?
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ReplyDeleteI'm wondering why he fled if he knew the police had been called? And since he wasn't located is this something the police would have let go? Should it have been followed up on them at a later point to see if they could locate and talk to him at the home? I'm not sure how that works but I"m wondering had it been anyone other than a Police Chief if it would be handled the same?
ReplyDeleteThe whole idea that he wasn't HOME so it's just over - is crazy. That is awful. The worst. Every cop's spouse or paramor's nightmare. Just a great big cop-joke.
ReplyDeleteThey saw his car but not him so NO FURTER ACTION IS EXPECTED?
That makes no LEGAL sense. Everyone involved should be held accountable for how that was handled.
And what was the message to the victim then? OBVIOUSLY something was wrong if he FLED or HID. So why NOT investigate further?
His camp has been running their mouths here until someone asked about the car. They can't answer because there is no good explanation.
In my city police under the chief didn't know what to do either - and now the chief and his wife are dead. No one did their jobs. They need a policy that spells out what to do when an officer is involved in a domestic - with specific instructions for if the officer is high-ranking.
see http://www.lanejudson.com
My heart goes out to the Judson's. What a horrible tragedy and to know this happens every day in this country is reprehensible. We must be a law in place to protect these families.
ReplyDeleteAt the very least I believe the Chief could have been found at work the next day and at least questioned. It appears he was most likely home if his car was there yet hiding from the police? What would have been done had this been "Average Joe" ?
I agree all parties should be held accountable and it seems as if York got away unscathed.
Can someone more knowledgeable about these things than myself please help me to understand what it DOES take to get an officers family, spouse etc the help they so legally deserve and pay for with their tax dollars?
I'm so tired of hearing about cop involved domestic abuse and the cop gets away simply because he's a cop. We should all be outraged by this and yes York and all involved should be accountable for their actions that evening including the cops that let it go when they " couldn't locate him".
If this scenario should happen again who is there to protect the family?
Whew! It's getting serious and deep in here. Now we are addressing the issue instead all that spit slinging that was going on.
ReplyDeleteThere is a problem. How this situation was handled is exactly why this blog exists. I could just hug the last commenter when I read, "We should all be outraged by this..."
We all should be.
You made my day.
Sometimes I'm not sure anyone cares.
I think it's important to remember that there are two sides to every story. Neither the wife nor the son (who is about twice York's size, btw) were treated for injuries as far as I can tell from the article, and so a DV charge might have been excessive. It's unfortunate that York acted the way he did, but based on the information in the article posted, it doesn't sound like it should have been a career ender.
ReplyDelete(At least) two sides to every story doesn't mean that everyone is wrong in some way or that a crime was not committed. No one can say if it would have been a career ender or even GUESS since there is no investigation. You don't have to maim people to be fired. I wouldn't even begin to guess if he should be fired because there is no investigative report. To YOU - saying that you are assessing by the news article - believe that multiple incidents of physical domestic assault and what appears to be evading police is really no big deal for the top cop to commit. Okay. That's your opinion. Not everyone would agree with you.
ReplyDeleteFor me the top cop is not my concern as much as a couple of other things about this are. I worry about safety of the people involved if it is clear the police won't follow up when they say they have been assaulted,
that there is obviously no policy governing responses to LE domestic allegations, and
and the area's embarrassingly UNprofessional law enforcement response.
Is it that bad for all domestic calls or just ones involving law enforcement officers and/or the area's people of power?
SO, back to the car.
Why was the car there with no one in it?
Thanks" Blue Wall" I could use a hug about now.
ReplyDeleteNow you advise me... What is something that can be done about the unprofessionalism of law enforcement involving a situation like this?
And wouldn't you think the car was there at Yorks place and he was probably inside hiding because the authorities were called? Why would he be evading if he didn't believe he had done anything wrong?
He's a cop and knows the law, therefore do no wrong and hide? Doesn't add up.
After reading this article I would like to know if this is a common occurrence in this field? To ask for a demotion?
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(by Rick Palsgrove, Southeast Editor - October 28, 2009)
Groveport Police Chief Gary York requested and received a voluntary demotion to patrol officer.
According to Groveport Law Director Kevin Shannon, York made the request for "personal reasons." Village officials did not wish to elaborate further.
The demotion is effective Oct. 29. York will retain his job seniority.
Shannon said Groveport Police Lt. Kurt Blevins will serve as interim police chief while Mayor Lance Westcamp considers his options for naming a new police chief. Shannon said Westcamp has not set a timetable for replacing York.
York originally became chief on March 12, 2007 and has served on the Groveport police force since 1987. He became a sergeant in 1995 and lieutenant in 1996.
What can be done? Email me so I get a better idea of the scope of the question. I don't have the answers but we can explore the questions together.
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About the article - no that is not common. It might be self-care, although I wonder if he was given options.
I just hope he's at peace with it.
For the pd it is a good thing.
If he was "given options"? Is a now PATROLMAN any better than a Chief being on the force with possible domestic violence and or irrational behavior? Is this country EVER going to see that the families of cops are not treated with the dignity and respect they deserve as tax paying Americans? The laws need to be changed, the cops responding to these calls need better training and the families deserve the same respect as anyone else.
ReplyDeleteIn an instance as this what should the family do? Should the local law enforcement agency be contacted and told about what happened so it doesn't happen again? I realize this is no guarantee but it might be a start.
ReplyDeleteWhat can one person do to help get these laws changed? Where do we start?
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ReplyDeleteWhat type of criteria is used for hiring an officer? Is something like this enough to keep another department from hiring a cop like this? Will another department even know these things before hiring? I have to wonder with the Blue Wall of Silence if something like this would even affect him in the future?
ReplyDeleteEven good people have a breaking point. There are 2 sides to this story.
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ReplyDeleteTo one of the above posts...yes good people have a breaking point but acts of violence against other people cannot ever be accepted. A breaking point can be not taking a phone call, walking away from a situation or simply taking a walk to clear your head......but you're suggesting VIOLENCE is OK because someone reaches a breaking point? SERIOUSLY??? I think you need to think again and realize VIOLENCE is NEVER an OK way to deal with a breaking point.
ReplyDeleteIf a Chief flees the scene, is never questioned, demoted to patrolman and continues his beat what on earth is the general public to do when we are taught and teach our children to respect the police?
ReplyDeleteWhat is it that makes a cop think he is above the law? Is it the fact that they happen to get away with things like this? Is it that people are afraid to get involved? Even the cops that take these reports?
ReplyDeleteWhy do so many cops seem to have the attitude they are "different", "special" etc...?
Do cops undergo any type of psychological analysis during the application process?
Not all cops. Not all departments. Where it happens this way it's devastating but I have to say that there are also many pd's doing the right thing - who don't want any criminal officers on their force. YAY! I can't say most are this or that - I just see a lot of police arrested or charged. The lukewarm crew have the officer resign from his job but not be prosecuted for his crimes - and often able to come back or go to another department when the media pack up and go home.
ReplyDeletePower corrupts (the corruptible) and absolute power absolutely corrupts. The dynamics of power aren't limited to police, but in the case of this blog the focus is there.
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ReplyDeleteI think there is a very important issue that we are not discussing, the fact that the Lancaster Police Department "dropped the ball" not the Groveport Police on the investigation. How deep is the rabbit hole, how far does corruption go? How many are in the pocket of someone else?
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ReplyDeleteYou said, "...that is easily handled through her attorney..."
ReplyDeleteThis blog is full of dead spouses who tried to do things the legal "right" way. If the answers were as simple as you present there probably would be no problem and no blog post.
What's it to you if she works or not? Do you know her or just gifted to be the guru of this relationship?
Sorry. Sometimes I get impatient with people speaking DOWN to/about alleged victims. You seem so sure you have their very simple answers.
I haven't seen a simple officer-involved dv case yet.
AMEN Blue Wall. You hit the nail on the head. In this case the attorney for the wife suddenly seems afraid to do anything to help the wife and is even threatening to drop her case if she doesnt come up with alot of money for him. This is after he agreed to have all of his fees come out of the divorce settlement. So I sure dont see any SIMPLE answers for her. I only see another victim being victimized even more. Love and prayers to you Mrs York, god knows you need all you can get right now.
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ReplyDeletewhen will citizens stand up ...and come out of the dark this website is vaulable we are now aware of the problems. what can we do about positive solution? this is OUR commUNITY LETS TAKE IT BACK ...
ReplyDeleteSo what is the positive solution?
ReplyDeleteWhat can we do as citizens???
ReplyDeleteHow likely is it for a bad cop like this to get another job? Doesn't it look bad taking such a demotion?
ReplyDeleteI think it's very admirable to take on another profession when law enforcement doesn't work out. It takes a particular kind of personality to handle power. I'd be very happy to hear that some of the officers on this blog found new lines of employment. Many of them friends and connections that they could find employment through.
ReplyDeleteI too believe taking up another profession is admirable. I think if a cop finds the job doesn't fit anymore and there is something they are better suited for they should go for it.
ReplyDeleteI think being a cop is a great profession IF they have the attitude they genuinely want to help others, serve and protect. It is when they lose those thoughts and think they are above the law when the trouble begins.
I applaud the decent cops out there and for the ones that aren't so decent, please find a profession you are better suited for.
What a great thing if this blog could be "put to rest" and not one more officer, officers family etc was negatively impacted by his/her poor choices.
I hope this family is finding some peace and these children are no longer in the middle of this catastrophe.
Fairfield County Sheriffs office didn't do their job that night. Groveport Police Dept is obviously just as bad.
ReplyDeleteYork acting with violence, ran from the law...anyone with a brain would know where to find him, at work and he gets off scott free, no questioning, no defending himself and all he got was a demotion?! Anyone else would have been charged with fleeing or something similar at the very least and he is never spoken to.....sounds like the Blue Wall at it's best.
ReplyDeleteMakes you think the police are inept and York was on the run for some reason.
ReplyDeleteHe's a "typical" cop and smooth talker. If you didn't know better you would believe what comes out of his mouth..he still can't explain why he ran, which leaves us to draw our own conclusions. It's ALMOST funny he would call the police on his own son yet flee when someone from his own house calls the police.
ReplyDeleteA bad cop or accused cop is not a "typical" cop.
ReplyDeleteTypical as in smooth talker...
ReplyDeleteI'm not trying to split hairs but a typical cop is no different to me than saying a typical Black or White person... it's just can't be true.
ReplyDeleteI should have prefaced or worded it differently, I apologize. I am speaking only for myself and the several officers I know personally and they are smooth talkers when it comes to dealing with situations even outside of their departments because of the way they deal with people while they are on the job. This is simply my experience and obviously not all cops are this way.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading all of these comments about York and the mistakes I believe that were made in his favor because of the Blue Wall, I came to a conclusion not necessarily to include all police officers.
Hoping his family has been able to move on from this. It does make you wonder how many other officers families don't get the police service they deserve because a member of their family is on the force.
Thanks for not pointing out my typo. :)
ReplyDeleteI LOVE COPS. Oh my goodness. I could not live in this society without them. I can't imagine.
Here in our area six officers have recently been murdered while on the job - all of them ambushed.
Our hearts are breaking.
I'm not a cop lover but do appreciate all they do and have many cop friends.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry for the officers that lost their lives. What horrible things this society goes through, and for what? It's sickening when the police do their job properly and end up dying because someone else decides to live a life of crime. I hope the killers are brought to justice...is their justice for killing? Probably not.
As for the typo...don't worry, I'm no English major. :)
We are going through a wave of officers being ambushed here in Washington State. What is going on?
ReplyDeleteI couldn't live in a society without police.
I doubt anyone wants a police free society...but what the heck do we do about these rogue cops that get away with things like York. It may not appear, on the surface to be that big a deal but sometimes these little things are the beginning or only a sign of bigger things.
ReplyDeleteI believe the wife could seriously be in danger. I pray she is taking extra precautions. It is my experience with cops, that the majority of them do believe they are above the law. What does York think he can get away with????
ReplyDeleteIf the above is correct I recommend she take as many precautions as possible so she doesn't become another statistic. If you are a friend of hers and believe this to be true, I trust you will help and/or encourage her to take the precautions she can to keep herself safe. If you say the above with some type of inside information I hope you will take steps to get law enforcement involved to any extent of anything you know.t possible and make others around her, as in friends and family, aware
ReplyDeleteMy guess is he reads it and she doesn't.
ReplyDeleteIf he does read this maybe he will leave a comment explaining his poor behavior.
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ReplyDeleteI'm with whomever wrote the March 1 comment. This isn't a game he should be playing. he needs to get some help and become a better cop.
ReplyDeleteIs a cop entitled to push his wife around?
ReplyDeleteIt must be ok in the city of Lancaster and Groveport. Why else would this not have at least been looked into further? Granted if they had found him he would have talked his way out of it most likely but possibly there was a cop on duty that just may have not taken the Blue Wall code to heart. Please let the voices of some of these victims be heard so this officer involved violence will STOP!
Don't give up on speaking out.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking out against this type of violence is what all citizens of the USA should do. Cops have got to understand this will not be tolerated!
ReplyDeleteIt rests on the chief or sheriff - and even good leaders are often sabotaged by the unions and arbitration process
ReplyDeleteI'm not understanding that comment...does that mean the Sheriff should have pursued this a bit more and he didn't because of the union or arbitration process? And since he WAS the Chief the Mayor should have done more since the mayor would, I think, be his boss? After reading all of this and other posts on here my understanding of some of these process aren't clear.
ReplyDeleteYes, the chief / sheriff/ mayor/ city council is responsible for the law enforcement agency's integrity and the kind of officers wearing the badge with sworn powers of arrest, armed.
ReplyDeleteYes, the Police chief answers to the Mayor. It is my understanding that York was demoted to patrolman.(which pays a little less than chief and will impact his retirement(s))The NEW police chief is a guy named Ralph Portier who is not only a great person, but also teaches at the police academy(ies) and his main areas of interest/expertiese are domestic violence,unarmed self defense and missing and exploited children. In my opinion, which consists of knowing both men, Groveport made a significant improvement by hiring Portier.
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ReplyDeleteI think it is awfully bad when a Groveport cop can harass people from other towns and not get in any trouble for it. Why is it ok for cops to do things like this but not for regular citizens? It is wrong to harass people and it is an abuse of their authority!
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ReplyDeleteIf a person really changes it's good to go away and start new (except blogs like this one make that hard.) More often offenders go away and start over with their trash.
ReplyDeleteI have removed one officer from this blog who truly changed. He may fall in the future, but the change is genuine and I respect all the effort that has gone into that.
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ReplyDeleteThis guy took off the night in question for a reason and since he's a cop he must have known he was guilty and didn't want to get caught. The cops dropped the ball on this all the way around.
ReplyDeleteTo all of you who are trying to put the blame for York's actions on his wife, I would like to tell you that I do know her personally. Things I do know is , she kept an emmaculate home, she was always there when York came home from work or teaching ( which by the way is where he met his girlfriend, she was one of his students), she treated him with respect and love. Was one of the most faithful spouses I have ever seen. She did not deserve the things this disturbed person has done to her and their family.
ReplyDeleteI am York's soon to be ex-wife and I truly appreciate the above comment. No, I wasn't the perfect wife, but I did my best. I did not deserve to be cheated on or the continued mental abuse I suffered and still suffer from. But most of all, our children did not deserve what he put them through and continues to put them through. He could have chosen to handle everything so much differently and if he had, who knows, it may have been possible to remain civil. He has lost all my respect and trust. I was a loving wife and a faithful wife our entire marriage, but I can finally say, him leaving me was truly a blessing. I wish him no harm, only the best and wish that he would just let me live my life now and could forget he ever knew me. I just want to be left alone to enjoy what is left of my life with the man I love with all my heart and soul. A man who truly appreciates me for me.
ReplyDeleteI didn't read anything here that put the blame on the wife and no victim is ever to blame.
ReplyDeleteWhat does an immaculate home or being home when the husband gets home have to do with anything? A clean house has nothing to do with this blog...Violence happens in clean homes and dirty homes.
ReplyDeleteThis blog is about violence, not a clean house or whether the wife was home. If he found a girlfriend something was lacking in the marriage to begin with and while it is immoral it is not illegal. Divorce happens. Violence should never happen.
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ReplyDeleteA lot of cops are good cops and good human beings...wonder if Lancaster or Groveport cops even care.
ReplyDeletePolice officers are not above the law...cops like York are out there but there really are officers that are decent human beings and good officers of the law. A bad seed like York needs to be weeded out and it sounds like Groveport, Ohio was willing to do some weeding. Congrats to them and shame on the cops that responded this night and let this go as if it meant nothing. Maybe their office should do some weeding too.
ReplyDeleteLets get this straight...Police Chief Gary York wanted cell phones, raised his hand to his son, pushed his wife several times, the incident proceeded outside and he runs.....ever heard the saying looks like a duck, walks like a duck quacks like a duck...it must be a duck? Looks like a self absorbed, egotistical poor excuse for not only a husband and father but for an officer of the law. Could he not have just turned the cell service off? Probably a lot more going on there than we know and what a good thing Groveport Police Dept saw the light with this one.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that TWO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES let this one slip through the cracks with no further investigation is incomprehensible.
I so agree with the above comment. It is time for cops like this one to be out not hiding behind their badges. We will all be safer.
ReplyDeleteThis page makes me sick. York doesn't deserve any attention. He should be locked up. End of story
ReplyDeleteI personally know York. He is and always has been selfish and self-centered. He also has made some very poor decisions at work, that could have ended badly, had he not covered them up. Groveport needs to wake up, cover their ass and get rid of this one, before it's too late.
ReplyDeleteHow fair is it for York to post pictures on his facebook page of a person as they are being arrested and have nasty comments about him?? How sad that a grown man, let alone an officer of the law behaves in this manner. This shows his true character.
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ReplyDeleteA friend of mine who works for a southeast newspaper in Ohio said that one of the reporters has a HUGE story about this guy. Something regarding perjury and him lying in court, under oath about his "demotion". I guess he told the court a completely different story, other than the truth. Who knows, maybe he'll be on the news soon, so stay tuned.........
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ReplyDeleteTo the person who tried to post, you can't tell someone else's business to that level. If that person wants that info on the blog then that person will have to go through me, let me check to see that they are who they say they are - and then I'd post that info in a comment. These are potentially matters of life and death.
ReplyDeleteI lost count of how many comments I deleted here tonight. 20? 30? I don't know. A few more on the edge.
ReplyDeleteTo the person who wrote four Heather-hating, Gary-can-do-no-harm comments that didn't get posted yesterday, just consider that a part of the sweep of comments that were removed yesterday. You wasted your time. People want simple answers to simple questions and nothing you said addressed any of it.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you delete comments, because they might be defending the ex-chief? I understand this is your blog, but if you're going to allow comments, allow people to post whatever they want!!! Stop molding this article INTO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO READ!!!!
ReplyDeleteI know this man, he is a good man and will give you the shirt off his back! I can't speak as to his frame of mind, nor his actions at the time, but you people love to convict police officers of things before you know the WHOLE story!! Yet you don't question the crackhead on broad or parsons who pulls a gun on a cop and files a lawsuit for getting a black eye, THIS IS THE MOST BIASES BLOG I HAVE EVER SEEN!
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ReplyDeleteWow. Just wow. I am the son mentioned in the article. Ive spent some time reading the comments. This is sad. First of all, this article came out in the gazette more than 3 months after the "Incident". Here's the true story that wasnt reported because no one asked me (!7 years old at the time).
ReplyDeleteMy parents had been separated for a few months and when I found out my dad had started seeing someone else, I lost it. I called my dad while he was at work non stop that day and after failed phone call after failed phone call I texted him something along the lines of "I hate you. You should blow your brains out." I was angry with him and I didnt understand why he left us. But he hadnt left us, he had left my mom. He came over that night through the garage door that led to our mud room. I was in the room next to it with my mom and I heard the door open. I ran to the mud room and all my dad said was "Give me your phone. I pay for them so since you dont want me in your life you will need to get a new one."
I threw the phone against the wall and it shattered. I THEN LUNGED AT MY DAD AND STARTED HITTING HIM. HE DROPPED HIS KEYS HE WENT TO GRAB THEM SO HE COULD LEAVE AND GET AWAY FROM MY ATTACKS BUT AT THAT MOMENT MY MOM RAN IN AT THE SOUND OF ALL OUR SCREAMING AND MADE A GRAB FOR HIS KEYS. HE TUGGED BACK GETTING HIS KEYS AND RAN OUTSIDE. WE (MY MOM AND ME FOLLOWED HIM OUT SCREAMING. OUR NEIGHBORS CAME OUT TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. I HIT MY DAD A FEW MORE TIME AS HE GOT IN HIS CAR AND LEFT.
He never once raised his hand to my mother or me just like he never had our entire lives. He was just getting away from my attacks. We were surprised when the police showed up but we later found out that my little sister (who was upstairs in her room the whole time) had called 911 because she heard MY yelling. My mom told the police exactly what she wanted them to hear and had me follow suit.
I dont feel like anyone here deserves an explanation into my family's private matters but since it was made public I feel the need to set the record straight. My dad is and always has been a good and honorable man. I was the aggressor, he was the victim. I was just an angry and frustrated teenager. Im now 21 and I realize my actions that night cost him his rank at the GPD. He worked hard all his life and I threw it all away for him in an evening. Everyone, including the lancaster eagle gazette, should be ashamed of themselves for judging and persecuting without knowing everything.
An interesting 7 year old child's perspective.
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ReplyDeleteDoes his new wife know about this, i wonder? She deserves to know the truth.
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